Comments on a Until Later

66 Comments:
parshapotpourri said...
Beautifully written as usual. Touching, real, down-to-earth, alive.

I enjoyed your blog while it lasted, but saw this coming and am surprised it lasted this long. As much as this blog meant to you, I think you're making the mature decision as you begin this next chapter and enter "real life" and respect you for it.

Wishing you tremendous hatzlacha, simcha, and clarity (!) in everything life brings you, and thanks for your wonderful blog.

I know you don't look at yourself this way, and will indeed blush at the comparison, but perhaps in some way everything you so eloquently wrote about what this yungerman has been for you, you have been for so many of your readers. Thanks again, and mazel tov!!

3/16/2006 12:38 AM
Semgirl said...
Wow..it really pays to comment first and read later..My dear friend Elisheva emailed me before posting, but in the time it took to skim thru the post PP beat me to the #1 spot..

Be that as it may... whatever the future of this blog is is I will always love you very much, Elisheva as I would my very own sister..

3/16/2006 12:47 AM
Pragmatician said...
Touching post.
I appreciate so much you've linked to my blog when I was a newcomer and you had a wonderfully established post already.

I think it's great you wrote your appreciation for that mysterious yingerman, gratitude doesn't always have to be directed do the person itself, the sentiment has a lot of value on it's own, one that will serve you well on many occasions as a wife.

3/16/2006 4:28 AM
chanie said...
wow, elisheva. i will really miss you, but i cant say i didnt see this coming, and i cant say that i disagree with your decision. at the beginning i was going to say welcome back, but i guess i cant anymore.....but i hope you have hatzlacha, and only simchas...mazel tov again.

3/16/2006 5:02 AM
Limey2001 said...
wow that was like wow
We'll miss you and we're always here if you need us
Mazal Tov and like all the best

3/16/2006 10:04 AM
Bracha said...
Elisheva,

I really cherish the time we were able to email each other and I am really happy for you and I know your Choson will appreciate what a wonderful girl he chose.

I am happy to know that there are still mature, sensible girls around.

Good luck in everything!!!

Mazel tov!

Bracha

3/16/2006 12:08 PM
Dave J. said...
Elisheva, good luck. I think no internet is a good decision and I hope you manage to keep up to it, but don’t think it will be easy to keep cus after you get married there could be pretty boring times, and sitting and talking with you hubby all day wont solve the boredom. In my opinion it is better to allow movies in your house and not allow internet, of course if you could it best not to have either one in your house. Anyway good luck hope you guys have lots of happiness together.
P.S. did you and semgirl ever end up meeting?

3/16/2006 12:31 PM
shtaiger said...
I hope everyone saw all the new posts on my blog, www.shtaiger.blogspot.com

3/16/2006 4:17 PM
ms. shtark said...
Dear dear elisheva, I will really miss your blog. That comment was so sweet and I really think it touched everyone who read it, and those who have been following your blog. It certainly has touched me!

So like yeah, now it is really like time to say goodbye and like you should totally enjoy a happy marriage with your husband. Like totally for sure. May you look at each other's bad habits like being a totally adorable cute thing and you shouldn't have any worries - whether it be in parnasah or children or just anything and may Hashem show you that everything that comes your way is for the best! I will like miss you!!!
p.s. don't have internet in your house. it's not healthy - if you really need it, you can always hope over to the library.
MAZEL TOV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and i wish i could have been there. love me

3/16/2006 6:31 PM
Elisheva said...
I am so touched by your comments. I will try to comment until Shabbos.

For starters, I actually thought I edited out the 'likes' this time! Just comes to show.... I'm hopeless.

PP, I really don't think so, but that was so sweet of you to say. I am touched and thanx.

SG, All my love and thanx for everything.

Pragmatician - I really wish I could have been able to visit your great blog more often. I wish you and the blog all the best. And I felt the same way about expressing the gratitude. It's something that should be done as much for our own part as for the part of the other person.

Chanie, thanx for understanding.

Limey - Thanx and I really do hope to somehow at least keep in touch if not actually blog again.

Bracha - That was so sweet of you to say about me. I will tell my chosson! I cherish the connection and advice as well. Wihing you all the best.

MB - I don't know about the movies, but yes, the internet is definitely risky timewise. Will there be times of boredom that I will want to write in? Maybe. Maybe I will write then and find a way to post even if not on internet in our own home.

My job technically has access, but I never used it for this until now so as not to leave any traces of this blog there. So there are possibilities. And then it won't be at home to streal time. Only when I have it. Is that a dream? I don't know. I hope not. We'll see.

Shtaiger, hi. Hope all works out for you.

Ms. Shtark - I will have to e-mail you privately. You are a special person and I will announce that here. No, I don't know you personally, but it comes through in everything.

I really, really will miss dancing with you. Who knows... Maybe you're his cousin or something and will come anyway, lol!

Shalom

3/16/2006 7:13 PM
Josh said...
Elisheva,

I spent all day trying to think of the perfect thing to say. But I couldn't. There is no way I could express what a special person you are. This post really summed up everything that demonstrated how special you are. You are thoughtful, honest, sincere, open-minded, loving, growth oriented, curious, and intelligent. And you put your heart into everything. Your Chosson is lucky to have found somebody who embodies all of these things, and so much more, and all your strengths as well as his should mesh together to create one unit that can truly realize your greatest joint potential and fill your lives with love and happiness.

Although it looks like we won't have our Normalville- the warm, friendly, open-minded and seriously frum community that the frum blogosphere gave us a glimpse of- your home should be a mini Normalville, and spread that spark of an ideal Yiddishkeit to all who see it. Focusing your energy and time on this real effort definitely takes precedence over writing a blog. Thank you for letting us into your life over the last 9 months, and thank you for being part of mine. Whether or not you reappear on your blog, find your way to ours, or just keep the email address alive, I look forward to keeping the kesher active, and continuing to learn and grow (and share simchas) in the future.

Josh

3/16/2006 8:59 PM
s.f. said...
elisheva , mz"t & lots hatzlacha , we wont forget u very quickly

3/16/2006 11:32 PM
Elisheva said...
Was it only nine months? Wow! It feels like so much longer than that.

Josh, that was too much. You make me blush. But thanx. It is nice of you to say that and your best wishes are so appreciated. I really do hope at least to keep in touch if I can't do more.

And I love your thought about making my own little Normalville in our home. I will tell my chosson that.

Shalom

3/16/2006 11:33 PM
Elisheva said...
SF - Thanx, best wishes to you too.

3/17/2006 12:10 AM
David_on_the_Lake said...
Elisheva...
Mazel Tov. You've made Lakewood proud..
:-)

3/17/2006 9:18 AM
specialx2 said...
Elisheva - I can't believe you're actually going... Uh, actually, I guess I need to rephrase that. I can believe you're going, because the decision is a wise one, but it's hard to see you go.
Hatzlacha in everything, and thanks for till now...:)
OH - And HAPPINESS ALWAYS!

3/17/2006 9:33 AM
Elisheva said...
David - Awwww! I only just recently discovered your own blog and I liked it and it is a pity I hardly was able to visit. Hatzlacha on everything. And who know, I may be standing behind you in line in Bagle Nosh or somewhere with my chosson one day soon...

Special - I'll soooo miss you. You really are special. And a HUGE heartfelt IY"H by you! Can't wait...

Shalom

3/17/2006 1:09 PM
X-LR8 said...
I really enjoyed your blog, very good read and writing style. Build a baiyis ne'eman b'yisroel and if you have time give me your thoughts on my new blog http://frumrambling.blogspot.com/

3/17/2006 1:13 PM
s.f. said...
"we hate to see u go" but all i can say is iy"h by all of us, now for the rest of us staying around this was a great meating place , where do we go now maby shevi keep the blog up we can keep on comenting here lol, even without posts its a rare combination of nice normal ppl here, about you staying off during shana rishona imho it is a wise thing & to strengthen your decision may i add that during this time there may be things u may feel u want to descuss but r actuly better of not descussing, its a time emotions run high etc. a very persnl time keep it that way its the smart choice, & then again g luck will miss u ,

3/17/2006 5:05 PM
Elisheva said...
Good Shabbos, Love you all, and Shalom.

3/17/2006 5:38 PM
David_on_the_Lake said...
Elisheva...
Thanks for visiting...you're always welcome to visit and comment..
If you're there with your Chosson..I doubt you'll even notice me
;-)

3/18/2006 9:51 PM
Michael said...
Elisheva,

Please read my email. Not sure if you'll like it.

3/18/2006 11:34 PM
Lvnsm27 said...
Elisheva, may you and your chasson build a bayis neeman byisrael and live happily together.

Lvnsm
live & smile

3/19/2006 8:42 PM
On The Derech said...
Elisheva -
B"HATZLACHA!
We'll miss you!
-OTD

3/20/2006 9:26 AM
Anonymous said...
so when and were is the wedding.
I want to dance

3/21/2006 3:54 PM
Boruch said...
I so badly want to tell you... but my lips are sworn to secrecy.....

3/21/2006 4:01 PM
Scraps said...
Tzeitech l'shalom. Mazal tov, and may Hashem bless you with happiness and shalom bayit.

You will be missed.

3/21/2006 4:39 PM
Anonymous said...
The wedding was beautiful. We all had a ball. Mazel Tov and all the best

3/22/2006 12:59 AM
boruchb said...
anon you were obviously at a different Chasana..A sach Yiddishe Nachas oif ganz Clall Yisroel...

3/22/2006 1:14 AM
Y.Y. said...
i bet you all eli will be back soon complaining about her husband
LMAO

3/22/2006 11:48 AM
Eshet Chayil said...
I'm way late as usual to comment but this was a beautiful post. I can't wait for the newly wed post. It might take awhile to get here, but I hope it does.

3/23/2006 8:36 AM
s.f. said...
so ppl were do we go from here to meet some nice & normal ppl

3/23/2006 10:24 PM
Anonymous said...
You can continue this blog even without new postings.Just write your thoughts on anything and responces are sure to follow.

3/24/2006 12:33 PM
FrumGirl said...
Mazel tov again. Whether it is goodbye or not, your blog was an a light inspiration to many girls who cant find the voice.

3/24/2006 1:12 PM
s.f. said...
thanx anon but may as well open my own blog not for me but maby somone bring up a topic ? mrs shtark whats on your mind?

3/24/2006 3:09 PM
ms. shtark said...
s.f., open up your own blog. why not? i am not mrs. shtark but ms. shtark.
hmmmmm what is on my mind? usually my family, work, my spirituality (sometimes going up and sometimes down) and who on earth am i going to end up marrying already... that is about as uncomplicated an explanation you are gonna get, although I usually do think about more things and have more stuff going on.
one topic i would find interesting i guess would be what ppl think are the differences between intown places like new york - brooklyn, five towns, lakewood and out of town like miami, toronto, chicago, atlanta. it would be interesting to hear opinions about it.

3/26/2006 1:59 AM
Anonymous said...
ms:
Funny to ask what the differences are.
It usually depends, if it is the girl or boy who is from out-of-town (oot)
Places like Florida, Toronto tend to be very chilled out while they are machshiv torah, (on the parents level) and the girls, are usually looking for a guy to sit and learn for a few years and after that go get a normal job.
However oot communities like Baltimore, tend to be a little more on the OOT’ish side in a different way, that is by being a bit more harry’ish (not that it’s bad).
Many times it depends on what seminary a girl went to. Even if she’s from FL and she went to a normal sem, then usually it’s a go go, because they are normal and just have the oot attitude that’s chilled.
While if you have a girl from OOT that went to gateshead, or the like (or bjj or hadar) you will usually know what type of OOT they are.

3/26/2006 10:36 AM
ms. shtark said...
OK anonymous above, i get what you are saying but i just find it so funny how ppl base things on seminary - after all it is only one year in a girls life. a girl picks her sem based on who she is already (usually). yes, they are going to 'grow' but they are also going to have a good time with friends and the like. also a girl or boy usually but not always is like his/her family - plays a big part. i think one thing that is different definitely about oot is that yes they are more chilled out and they dont totally care what everyone else thinks - they are not always out to impress each other. what is nice about in town is that there are so many jews around you. again that is a good thing and a bad thing..... me personally coming from oot - i find 'in town' very different.

3/26/2006 1:58 PM
eshter said...
When I was in sem I felt like I was the odd one out for being from boro park.I don't mean to criticze or acuse anyone but let me just say when other girls used to make fun of boro park (and me by extension)IT HURT! Please don't start a fight about this issue but we have to very careful about portraying someone elses hometown in a negitive light.Now back to subject at hand..

3/26/2006 2:16 PM
CE said...
I know what you mean..One lady we know grew up in Denver, and went to BJJ. Can you spell overcompensate.. Another lady is married to a really cool Toronto guy, but she is from Minneapolis and went to Hadar.. So she has to out-Lakewood all the native Lakewooders. Its an old story. Then you have Chicago people that come from real Torahdiker homes and have nothing to prove, so they are comfortable in their own skin..

3/26/2006 9:06 PM
s.f said...
lol thnk ms shtark (i stand corrected) for starting us up, to your ? well as ppl pointed out it there r deffrent out of towners i would focus on the frum out of towner, meaning if pareants r lets say in chinuch etc b/c thse r the ones i know i would say they dont have all the built in "frumkiet attitudes" that being in town gives but they r way more thinking ppl generaly speaking, & therfore often have lots of "pnimius" (btw obviously i m from in town lol)

3/26/2006 10:00 PM
s.f said...
oh & about my own blog its to time consuming, among other reasons, also ill admit not sure i have that much to say to keep ppl intrested lol

3/26/2006 10:02 PM
b4 its too late said...
elisheva
i would suggest you delete this blog before your husband looks at your first few posts were you say that you were invloved with some lesbians

3/27/2006 9:06 AM
ms. shtark said...
eshter, I think I know what you mean but if you are your own person, then what's the biggie?

ce, minneapolis + hadar + toronto? interesting mix makes interesting results. I think that the real oot of town places like phoenix or san diego or columbus would be real cool places to live. that is even more oot then toronto or florida and chicago. I think the problem then is education for your kids because you end up sending your kids to school where there are a big mix. However, I think that is also good because it opens up your children's eyes that there are different types out there and leads to great kiruv opportunities.

sf, what do you mean when you say the frumkeit attitudes that being intown brings? what are they?

3/27/2006 9:41 AM
chaya goldie said...
Ms. shtark: Do you REALY get to do more kiruv out of town?somehow I feel once you get there you get too bogged down by daily life for being involved any more in kiruv then once a week partners in torah that you could do in lakewood as well.(I do)When I got engaged it was with the understanding that we would move out of town for kiruv if we could find any realistic opportunity.To our sorrow we didn't.May you fare better.

3/27/2006 3:46 PM
Frum Sem Kid said...
B4: You are obviously a guy. Girls playing around a drop and experimenting in sem has NOTHING to do with being lesbian. Girls are different than guys. We change in front of each other and are more into our bodies and figures. This can be another topic to discuss here. Pity Elisheva never got to it. We all end up marrying boys and that's what we want.

3/27/2006 9:35 PM
suzan said...
elisheva, mazel tov

3/28/2006 11:15 AM
skibum said...
chaya goldie, kiruv seems to be the ultimate "chick magnet" for lack of a better description, it sounnds exotic and spiritual and when a boy says he wants to do it the falls head over heels......then reality hits, "no opportunity" (no $50k a year job)... I hope you aren't feeling cheated

3/28/2006 1:16 PM
chaya goldie said...
skibum:we realized then that it was at best a 50% chance we would find anything but at least we tried.Thanks for the concern.

3/28/2006 1:58 PM
Semgirl said...
A sach mazal un nachas.. Im so excited for you..

3/29/2006 9:39 AM
skibum said...
uh SG: like been there done that? or are you trying to tell us something?

3/29/2006 9:48 AM
s.f said...
ms. shtark what i meant is fort example denim, etc btw after i posted that i relized that while it may be true by girls by boys i dont see the oot having any gains from it

3/29/2006 3:19 PM
long time le7 admirer said...
Do you realize LE7 has hit over 30 thousand hits?! Shows how much we all love her. Hope she comes back soon. It's crazy, every cute looking yeshivish girl I pass now who looks like a fresh kalla, makes me wonder...
On a different track, besides out of town, do you guys think it is becoming pretty accepted even in yeshivish engaged couples to touch and bunp 'by mistake' and have conversations just bordering on racy, or is it my imagination?

4/02/2006 12:29 AM
michal said...
I don't know if you are married or not by now - if so, mazal tov!!! - but I only just found your blog recently and I read it beginning to end (and most of the comments, too!) I am so happy that you found your bashert and I hope that you find many long years of happiness together.

I hope you both will decide that you will come back to blogging soon. Your voice and insights are important, and I think your thoughts about shana rishona (not the sex stuff, the growth stuff!) could be very valuable - especially to young girls who are still in the shidduch scene as you were not long ago.

4/07/2006 2:07 PM
Josh said...
7 - Just wanted to let you know that I'm still checking daily. A false hope, I know. But I'm sure at some point, you'll at least read this, so I want you to know that I'm still thinking about you and your Chosson, and hope everything is a fairytale. Even if you don't pick up the blog again, I can't say enough how much I valued your perspective. You should only have more Simcha in your life!

4/27/2006 11:37 PM
Anonymous said...
af al pe sh'yismamayeh im kol zeh achacka lo...but that of course is a referance to moshiach not elisheves blog.Lets not get carried away ch"v nonetheless I also check here in the hope she returns.

4/28/2006 3:20 PM
ms. shtark said...
me too! hope everything is going great!

4/30/2006 5:38 PM
JBL the first said...
Kol Hakovod on the decision you made about internet. I hope you won't change it later on as it is a hard but worthy undertaking.

5/01/2006 10:59 AM
Anonymous said...
this blog is pure bullshit
was a guy who simply got bored acting girly

5/01/2006 7:34 PM
Semgirl said...
I highly doubt that, because we emailed and chatted for over 9 months and shared our most intimate thoughts..

5/01/2006 8:37 PM
Anonymous said...
WELL SEMGIRL, DOES ELI STILL TALK WITH YOU AT ALL ? GIVE US A HINT ABOUT WHATS GOING ON.

5/02/2006 11:23 AM
Anonymous said...
strange how semgirl can only doubt that

5/02/2006 3:24 PM
Elisheva said...
HELLO!

Hi everyone. No, we did not get internet at home, and I think we will not be getting it. Thanks for the chizuk from all those who encouraged me to keep strong with that. I will be checking in through work though I think. I do hope to post something when I can.

I was very touched seeing all the comments I missed before our wedding after I no longer checked the blog or my e-mail. You all are really so sweeet and wonderful. B"H things are very good. My chosson (okay, husband, I have to still get used to calling him that) started the zman so like I do seem to be having a drop more time now, something I didn't dream I would have a week ago.

Josh, that last comment touched me as you always do. I really had you ALL in mind by my chuppah. Hi, Ms. Shtark, Hi Semgirl, Hi everyone else. Okay, I will have to go for now. I missed you all.

Shalom

P.S. I hate deleting comments, but I think I do have to keep the blog a little more in order, especially now. Please, if you don't like anything or the blog, just don't visit or comment. Thanks.

5/02/2006 3:36 PM
Josh said...
Yay! We haven't lost you forever! I'm so happy to hear all is going well. Things have been so quiet (both on the blog and off the blog for me). It sounds like you are balancing everything expertly. We're here if you ever need us.

5/03/2006 11:20 PM
Elisheva said...
Like there is something called tact and mentchlichkeit.

Posting soon...

Shalom

5/24/2006 3:23 PM
prof said...
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shalom
marcel

10/07/2007 11:41 AM